Cryptobox feed hunter info.

We have a number of regular customer for many years who are satellite enthusiast and feed hunters and they
report back to us. This is the receiver they are all buying because of it's advanced tuning capabilities.

Here are the comments -

31/01/21 "Switched up all seven receivers this evening. Moved the dish to Hispasat at 30 West.
This is the result in channels found -
ab CryptoBox 752HD 529 - Channels
Technomate TM 6900 - 392
Technomate TM 8000 - 389
Edision Piccollo - 383
Amiko X Finder - 376
Amiko Alien 2 - 356
Technomate TM 5502 - 333
I find it odd that my oldest receiver, the TM 6900 came second, 137 channels short of the Cryptobox.
The TM 5502 took 47 minutes to search and download and has now earned a death sentence. It was also
196 channels short of the CryptoBox.
The Edision although HEVC capable did not download the BISS transponders on Hispasat which are registered
on Lyngsat, therefore these transponders must be S2x.
Weather here was drizzle. In rain the Cryptobox and Edision come out best for signal level.
I hope someone produces software that will allow both the Edison and the Cryptobox to set search parameters
instead of the whole satellite. I have sent a message to Technomate asking them when they are going to
produce a receiver that will be HEVC and S2x capable. I eagerly await their answer."

12/02/21 ab CryptoBox 752HD Combo. First report.
"My first thoughts on this relatively simple to use box are as follows:-
Setting up first search of HotBird at 13 East. I first cleared all the transponders that were already installed.
The CryptoBox searched and downloaded all channels in 5 mins and .01 of a second . The receiver downloaded 1,341
channels. One of those channels was at 8K.
In comparison the Technomate TM 8000 Combo took 18 seconds longer and downloaded 1251 channels. A difference
] of 90 channels. This time difference is reflected on all satellites. e.g. Turksat at 42 East, same download
time difference. CryptoBox found 366 channels, the TM 8000, 339. It wasn't until I downloaded 33 East did I
realised that the receiver is actually registering the data channels into the channel data base. For some
reason, even after upgrading the receiver software, 33 East satellites are not listed in the available
satellites listing, you have to add the satellite yourself."

"Being a combo receiver, the receiver will down SD an HD channels terrestrial.
Video sharpness is good but I feel the sound could be better. I must state that I have a 60% hearing loss
but I wear high grade hearing aids. Often when switching through the channels you do not get any audio,
but simple use of the menu you can find the right audio source.
I am truly surprised at the receivers sensitivity. On 33 East, 10758 V 27500 5/6 8PSK, the receiver down loaded
the video channels as well radio channels, the TM 8000 does download the radio channels. The RCU use has caused
me some fun, the frequency used on some of the keys operate the Kaanan HDMI Matrix switch 8 in 2 out, another
key switches on/off the TM 6900 and the TM 5502. However this has been easy to get around.
I will be keeping and using the ab CryptoBox 752HD Combo on a daily basis. For the price, in my opinion, this
is a good buy. As you good people know I have been in the communications World now for 61 years."

16/02/21 A comparison of the Cryptobox and the Octagon

"ab Cryptobox 752HD

10998 H 31428 (2 TP's)
11018 H 3505 (4 TP's)
11044 V 24476
11048 H 14930 (11 TP's)
11079 V 5999 (2 TP's)
11081 H 13819 (2 TP's)
11104 H 24476 (2 TP's)
11113 V 10482 (2 TP's)
11132 V 22476 (2 TP's)
11157 V 13729 (6 TP's)
11177 V 10000 (2 TP's)
11191 H 15000 (2 TP's)
11465 H 26667 (2 TP's)
11465 V 22916
11498 H 14930 (3 TP's)
11663 H 2128 (2 TP's)
11683 V 13780 (2 TP's)
Octagon SF 8008 +4K

10964 H 5000 Signal up and down
11104 H 24477 Signal up and down
11192 H 15001 Signal up and down
11466 H 26668 Signal up and down
11132 V 22476 Signal up and down
11178 V 10001 Signal up and down
I can now recognise the problem between the two receivers, they are both advertised as HEVC, S2x capable. The problem
therefore with the Octagon is threshold, improve the threshold and it would then become competition for ab CryptoBox"

16/02/21 This Data may enable you to sell more of the ab CryptoBox 752HD. What a brilliant receiver this really
is, a true enthusiast box indeed. I have been reporting my results on feedhunters@googlegroups.com

I have searched 18 West with both the Octagon and the ab Cryptobox.
No programming was found on either receivers, but there are active TP's
Octagen, using "user defined" software:-
1 TP 11473 H 8300

Cryptobox
. 11078 V 3519 (2 TP's register)
11121 V 21000 (250 TP's register on this one frequency, data streams?)
11160 H 14910 (12 TP's register on this one frequency)
11474 H 8300 (1 TP)
11486 H 1778 (2 TP)
11497 V 8416 (1 TP)
11563 H 32818 (2 TP)
11632 H 2332 (2 TP)
11676 H 32727 (2 TP)
12567 H 13010 (2 TP)
12640 V 14820 (3 TP)
12674 V 21000 (250 TP's)
12700 V 14820 (7 TP's)
12731 V 25727 (250 TP's)
(250 TP's) Means it registers 250 times on that frequency. they appear as for example 12731/V/25727/AutoM:50 e
It takes longer to remove these TP's than it does to download them! Nearly 800 of them on this beast.

I have searched 27.5 West with both the Octagon and the ab Cryptobox.
No programming was found on either receivers, but there are active TP's
Octagon SF 8008 +4K , using "user defined" software:-
2 TP
11496 V 44103 Some Radio Stations.
11637 V 25707

ab Cryptobox 752HD.
10963 V 14266
11082 V 55237
11136 V 24169 (2 TPs)
11173 V 25000 (2 TPs)
11422 H 29999 (4 TPs)
11495 V 44101 Some Radio Stations.
11555 V 29900 (2 TPs)
11610 V 5723
11619 V 3171 (2 TPs)
(4 TP's) Means it registers 4 times on that frequency.. they appear as for example 12731/V/25727/AutoM:50 etc
Telstar 11 at 37.5 West
ab CryptoBox 752HD. I gave up on the Octagon.
10971 V 18182 ( 3 TP's)
11001 V 9165 (3 TP's) 11515 H 1999
11628 H 6499 (3 TP's)
11644 H 15453 (250 TP's)
11658 H 8957
12509 V 8499
12545 V 4995 (2 TP's)
12645 H 2517 (2 TP's)
12712 V 45001 (27 TP's)
The Octagon SF 8008 +4K in it's sales pitch says that it is HEVC and S2x Capable,
but as of yet, it has definitely
not produced the data that the Ab CrytoBox has.
Thumbs up for the CryptoBox.
The Octagon SF 8008 +4K, 4K being the only advantage so far that I have found. One good thing about the Octagon
is that you can work and switch between two software marks. I am using, as is Chris, Open VIX which allows
search parameters to be entered and "user defined", this does not allow search parameter setting, however
is the better of the two software's.
When completely resetting the Octagon, you are given about 10 separate software's to choose from.
Hope the data is useful for the sales side of life. My enthusiasm has been uplifted by this receiver.
At nearly 77 years old people think I am weird!!!!

21/02/21 These pictures, attached, show what the ab CryptoBox 752HD downloaded when searching Intelsat 905.
Note the symbol rate of 54518 at the frequency of 11068 H.
11636 both H and V are not listed on flysat.com
These pictures, below, show what the ab CryptoBox 752HD downloaded when searching Intelsat 905.
Note the symbol rate of 54518 at the frequency of 11068 H.
11636 both H and V are not listed on flysat.com

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